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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 16, 2007 22:01:06 GMT
hi guys! i just had the idea to start a new SBK Online Championship. I hope that Daz'll be agree with me and give me some help to manage it ;D.
But there are some conditions: i've done some new physics and i'd like to do the champ not with old Physics beta, that i really don't like, but with mine. And that's the problem. Play with this physics it's a bit difficult so i think that, if we want to start this champ, it's better if you test those physics for a week or two and be used to play with them.
so tell me what do you think about it and then i'll give you my physics so you can start to test them.
Of course we can use Hamachi for the champ. Some time ago, i test it with DavyB and i think that it's really good. And i read that u played some times with it, so there are no problems to use it.
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Post by pierreblabla on Mar 17, 2007 8:38:18 GMT
Hi Blade. Thanks for still thinking about doing an online SBK2001 championship, but unfortunately we tried to do an online race a few weeks ago, and it didn't work at all. Here what was saying MikeX about it (see online announcements section) :  :(well things don't look good for any sbk online league in the near future.With more than two players lag is too much for racing.Untill someone rewrites the online code this game will stay on as the best offline motorbike sim out there.I want to thank the guys who took the time to participate in this adventure.For one on one racing I will be glad to race though!If any body wants to continue just post! So Hamachi+SBK2001 is good with a one on one game (like you tried it seems) but even with 3 players with DSL or Cable connection, it is unplayable (screen freezing every 2 minutes, lags sometimes) ... So we would need a computer gourou that would be able to crack the online code (if it is possible at all  ) ...     Bye. |
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Post by rickyduck on Mar 17, 2007 10:59:53 GMT
Crack the online code? Wtf... that doesn't make sense. Hamachi uses its own source code to turn lan connections into internet connections. To crack the internet code would be to get the source code for hamachi, which is impossible.
Apparently Hamachi Pro is less laggy than hamachi basic, so maybe if I post a serial number on here there'll be less lag.
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Post by pierreblabla on Mar 17, 2007 11:45:25 GMT
Ricky, I was of course talking about the SBK2001 "online part" source code (Hamachi is perfect in what it is doing !), and I guess this is impossible as well, I have no clue about that actually (just a supposition, ok ?). Milestone totally fukked up this online source code it seems.
So here is the conclusion we had (me, MikeX, and a few more players when we did this online race some weeks ago) :
SBK2001 is UNPLAYABLE (-> it launches BUT far too much lags, screen freezing, etc) with more than 2 players, even with Hamachi premium version (pro), with no firewall, no antivirus, no MSN, with cable or DSL connections, etc etc etc etc
That's really a pity, I know, but we made enough tests to have this conclusion.
Bye.
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 17, 2007 12:51:20 GMT
hi guys. i'm really sorry about online problems. as u said i've test the game only in one on one races, and i had no idea that there are all this problems. so do a real championship it's totally impossible. but last year we did a championship based on total race time. so we could race one on one and then find the winner for each race. but i've got an idea! i thought to do a championship with totally different rules, that is do a champ not based on final results or positions for each track, but based on versus races, someting like football. in this way we can do only one on one races, and each player must race against all the others. for example, we can decide wich are the guys that want to partecipate to the champ, and then decide the challenges. about points, we can give, 3 point to the winner , 1 to the loser, 0 if a driver don't do a race. then we can introduce some other rules, for example, give an extra point for the record in qualifications. tell me what u think about it. i think that it could be not too bad thing. while u'll tell me about it, see the rules that i decided for the champ: img148.imageshack.us/img148/3046/rules1bl2.jpgimg148.imageshack.us/img148/883/rules2lw0.jpgsoon my physics should be downloadable from Motoracing download section, so u can start to test them. |
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Post by pierreblabla on Mar 17, 2007 15:04:11 GMT
Your idea is interesting, really. Maybe the calendar should be splitted by track : on each track each challenger races each one of the other drivers ...
About your rules, they are perfect. I wait your updated physics to see.
Bye.
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 17, 2007 19:11:03 GMT
about my physics. i'll give u some set up, just to start with, because do a good one starting from nothing it's a bit too difficult with those physics.
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Post by DazListic on Mar 17, 2007 19:40:04 GMT
Sounds good Blade
i will help all i can, but will leave results to you m8.
Blades new physics have been uploaded so everyone
can practice, go to the download site to get them,
and just extract rar and put the two files in Data folder
backup and overwrite original files, enjoy.
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Post by rickyduck on Mar 17, 2007 19:46:21 GMT
Oh, I missread the post Sorry, but still, to get a source code from a commercial game is the same as illegaly distrubuting it, if not worse. It would'nt be as hard to set up a dedicated server, maybe in a language like C++ |
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 18, 2007 7:01:28 GMT
here you are sets up! just save and then print them. img216.imageshack.us/img216/7273/setupsw0.jpgbut be careful! those sets up are good for original physics, so u MUST do your own sets up, those are just a beginning to start with. At first time, u'll probably find my physics to difficult, but with the right set up everything is better. then, if everybody'll have big problems i'll give u my own sets up, that is sets up that i always use. another thing...totally forget physics beta! with this physics gas/accelerator must be given slouly, and in some track it's impossbile to breack strongly during the leaning. so be careful and enjoy them! |
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 18, 2007 7:06:18 GMT
Sounds good Blade i will help all i can, but will leave results to you m8. Blades new physics have been uploaded so everyone can practice, go to the download site to get them, and just extract rar and put the two files in Data folder backup and overwrite original files, enjoy. of course u have to rename files from "TyresNew" and "BikesNew" in "Tyres" "Bikes". |
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Post by pierreblabla on Mar 18, 2007 10:20:40 GMT
totally forget physics beta! with this physics gas/accelerator must be given slouly, and in some track it's impossbile to breack strongly during the leaning. so be careful and enjoy them! Hi Blade. Thanks for your physics file. I quickly tried it this morning : I really enjoyed the bike behaviour in the corner with the accelerator/brake control because it is more like the original one (compared to the physicsbeta file) but in a better way really, so congratulation. But there is a problem though : for example with the Suzuki on Monza, in straigh line, I was unable to go faster than 275 km/h even after changing engine parameters ... did you experienced that ? See you. |
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 18, 2007 21:25:22 GMT
i know what could be the problem, but before change something i'll take a look. thx to notice me that thing. about those kind of problems just tell me them. i hadn't test physics in all tracks, so there could be something wrong in my physics. do a champ it's a good way to test them too ;D. here you are some screenshots from old Misano track(poor Misano! )to understand better how to drive:(red=accelerator, yellow=brake) img255.imageshack.us/img255/9923/sbk2001001qi3.jpgimg255.imageshack.us/img255/9927/sbk2001003xs5.jpgtrack haven't always the same grip, so in some of them it's possible that u must be carful to don't brake tto much, as i did in this case: img255.imageshack.us/img255/3313/sbk2001002cm6.jpgtake a look at accelerator grafics. try to learn to give it slowly, parzialize it(give not all the gas and keep it at that level) and start to give gas only when u're finishing a leaning. with some practice u'll see that when u are upright u can give all gas with no problems, but if u're leaning u have to take care. another thing: Ducs in my physics are a bit faster then other bikes, as should be, but they are more difficult to drive. i advice to start with a Yamaha, for example, or with Aprilia RSV, wich are a bit slower but less nervous. |
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 18, 2007 21:49:03 GMT
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Post by 8Blade4 on Mar 18, 2007 23:50:50 GMT
another advice tht i want to give u is about bikes. with my physics Ducs are a bit faster then other bikes, that is with Ducs u can do better lap times, but they are more difficult to drive then others. for the beginning i think it's better if u try first with a Yamaha or Aprilia. RSV1000 is slower but really less nervous then Ducati. Yamaha it's a middle level. as i said in the other topics, i advice u to test physics in Misano and Assen. first Assen, to take confidence with acceleratore forgetting brakes(good grip), then Misano to take more confidence with accelerator and start to learn how to understand which is the limit while braking(in this case i often fall down and have crashes! ;D) try to find a set up that let u do good lap times without too much hard work. take it easy!  |
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