New Physics: help!

[8Blade4]

Hi to all!
i'm doing on my own new physics for SBK2001.
is there anybody that would like to help me? i only need somebody to let him tests my new physics and tell me his impressions. only this.
if there's someone that have some freetime and want to test my physics, just contact me at: [e-mail]
then i'll send files for new physics and tell how to install them(if somebody doesnt know how to do it).
thx, bye.

[8Blade4]

there's nobody would like to help me?
i need someone that could drive in level 4, with only 50% extra brake(i haven't found how to change brake power yet! )

[Drillah]

you can send them to me, i'll help you.

[tomsc2000]

send them [e-mail] and I will give them a test for you.

I feel the only areas of the physics that need tweeking are the front end grip going into corners and the slow speed handling.

[8Blade4]

i'm sending it to u, with all instructions! thx!

[Drillah]

OK, here is what I have so far:
Kylami
Aprilia, 1.42.10
Bimota, 1.41.46
Ducati, 1.41.23
Honda, CRAP
Kawasaki, 1.40.54
Suzuki, CRAP
Yamaha, 1.39.88

I raced the bikes for only a few laps each in the exact order as above using the default setup. You'll notice the times got better as I got used to the physics (and racing level 4 again after so long )
I think you're on the right track as far as the bikes all being equal but the Honda and the Suzuki are messed up. Did you start with the physics file from the SBK online champ we're using? The Honda and Suzuki are messed up in those physics too. DUC did not finish them. The gearing is way too short on those 2 bikes. It is on all the bikes but those two the worst.

Here's my take:
-Front end not enough grip. I cannot trail brake enough I think. Low side too quick.
-Rear end spins up too easy on all bikes. Grip as far as doing a low side might be OK because I did not crash while exiting corner on acceleration but the tire spins up too easy. Give the rear more grip so it does not spin so easy so we get better acceleration but when it does spin you lowside easier. That make sense?
-Gearing on all the bikes seems way to short on all bikes but the Honda and Suzuki are by far the worst.

I won't be racing them again because i've got to practice for Laguna champ but I'll test the next file you do so keep me on the mailing list.

[8Blade4]

Drillah, really thx for your help. but with this timing i can't understand a lot, i'm sorry. Because Bimota shouldnt be so fast, as Kawasaki, and u said that times got better as u got used to the physics and racing level 4. anyway thx for your advices.
you only should try to do really best time with each bike, because in this way i can undestand which is the limit of each bike, and which is faster, slower... please, try physics again as soon as u can, thx.
about Honda and Suzuki, yes, i've started from physics that we use in champ, but i changed about everything, but i can try to use original one, to see if things are better. but i probably understand which is your problem.
about gears, u're saying that are too short for Honda and Suzuki, right? u're probably right but there's a thing that u dont notice, and that's why u said there's not enough grip in front and rear. i did this physics with a precise purpose: let setup make difference! for example, in Misano, with default setup, i run 1:33, 1 :34 and drive bikes is really difficult. with setup i run about 1:32 and i can brake more inside turns. so try physics with setup, u'll see that gears can be longer, and grip will be better! about Honda i noticed that it runs only about 230km/h, but it's a default setup problem, physics cant help for this, and i dont know how to change it.
i did this physics thinking that in driving simulator like SBK2001, to be fast, should be necessary do a setup.
when u have time, please try it again with setups, if u need them, just tell it and i'll send u them. i should tell u this thing about setup before, it's my fault! sorry.
thx for your help and advice! bye.
PS:good practice in Laguna!

[tomsc2000]

thanks for sending me the file. Leave it with me for a while and I will see what I can do.

When I am playing the game normaly I don't use any extra brake and it seems to keep hitting the same braking markers as the computer does, meaning the races are closer. Do we need to alter the braking at all? I think it is ok as it is.

anyway I will try out the physics and get back to you in a few days.

[8Blade4]

ok, thx tomsc!
about brakes, i only want to give them a bit of power, because i think that without 50% extrabrakes they arent so strong as real, and brakes are too long. not a lot, only a bit, as much as u need to brake about 5meters before then 50%extrab. but i have to find how to do it!

[dh55]

can i have a go wiv the physics blade? i have some crap physics at the moment and ill give ya some feedback

[8Blade4]

i need another favour. i need that someone choose a bike and drive it in Misano. i'm using Misano as test track, so i need that someone choose a bike(not a Ducati), do the best setup that he can and drive it trying to do the best time, all in qualifying mode.
i need this because i'm modifying bikes basing on lap time, but i have a good setup only for Ducati, and i didnt test all other setups that i use with other bikes. setups are almost good, bat not perfect, so i need this because in this way i can understand if other bikes can go faster, and how much faster, then i've done. if anybody cant do it, i'll do it in my own. bye.

[dh55]

i will have ago i have good honda set up and i like misano

[8Blade4]

drillah said:

-Rear end spins up too easy on all bikes. Grip as far as doing a low side might be OK because I did not crash while exiting corner on acceleration but the tire spins up too easy. Give the rear more grip so it does not spin so easy so we get better acceleration but when it does spin you lowside easier. That make sense?
-Gearing on all the bikes seems way to short on all bikes but the Honda and Suzuki are by far the worst.

what u said have a sense but if i give too much grip in rear, weel should spin less, but it won't lowside. try a lowside with physics that we use in champ. it's quite impossible to do it. and i think that spin is good because let u give gas slower, as u should do when u drive a real superbike!

[8Blade4]

8blade4 said:

i need another favour. i need that someone choose a bike and drive it in Misano. i'm using Misano as test track, so i need that someone choose a bike(not a Ducati), do the best setup that he can and drive it trying to do the best time, all in qualifying mode.
i need this because i'm modifying bikes basing on lap time, but i have a good setup only for Ducati, and i didnt test all other setups that i use with other bikes. setups are almost good, bat not perfect, so i need this because in this way i can understand if other bikes can go faster, and how much faster, then i've done. if anybody cant do it, i'll do it in my own. bye.

i did it on my own. thx anyway!

[8Blade4]

any news from my test drivers?