What do ya gotta do to.......

[ichibrothers]

finish a full length race without blowing the motor!?!?! Wow is it frustrating to invest 23 or 24 laps of time into a race...barely hanging on...heart in your throat trying to keep the bike upright...pushing, pushing, pushing...and then BLAM! Engine failure!! AHHHhhhhhhh! LOL!

Recently reinstalled SBK 2001 and am just continually amazed at how AWESOME this sim is! Can't wait for SBK 2007...hope and pray that it is AT LEAST the equal of 2001.

Anyway..on to the important stuff. Engine failures. Been running the Honda with max realism except for 50% extra brake, 1 click of both accel and brake help...and...maybe the culprit...auto transmission! Am using a Saitek gamepad with 2 clicks of sensitivity on both accel application and release. I have been running the default setup with hard tires in a championship season. So..a TON of laps have been run at Kyalami to date. Oh...and using the stock physics.

Now...I am so focused on trying to nail the corners and keep it upright, that I have had little time to steal a glance at the tach in the bottom left corner. At first I thought I was too aggressive getting back on the throttle out of the corners, but I don't think that is it. Trying to keep an eye on the tach now too, I see that the auto transmission has me wound out in first and second gears in most corners. No surprise the motor is not lasting as I am on the rev limiter.

Is there a way around this, or do have have to have brain surgery to get enough coordination to turn, accelerate, brake, upshift and downshift all with two thumbs and two fingers? Seems like a bit much. Have tried a few laps in manual and it was not pretty!!!!! In the slow first gear corners, the bike seems so much more likely to dump then with automatic turned on. Is this true or am I just imagining it? Somehow I feel that if I adjust the gearing and final drive ratios in the setup, the AI will be blasting out of the corners leaving me in the dust.

Any advice? I think if I spend the next year working on running in manual, I might get the hang of it...but I wanna race now!!! Not just train...LOL!

Thanks,
Bill

[Kamikuza]

I gave up on running with that turned on. I could never finish a race even if I geared it way too high & kept it out of the redline. Just turn it off

I use a Logitech Wingman Rumblepad with the analog sticks - bought it especially for this game - & use manual gear box. I try to play like I'd ride - so I dont change down in corners so much You just gotta get used to the sound of the engine - after all, you cant be looking at gauge cluster when you REALLY riding!

I changed my signature to show the settings I use when I play ... give you an idea. Alot is in the setup too - you can make the bike a real dog or make it a real honey. I've got the Bimota setup so I can brake at full lean as hard as I like & it wont wash the front out but that's not simming is it

EDIT the other thing to do, to learn what others do, is to watch their replay files. Just make sure they got the same settings as you want to use. There's a couple of pages with a bunch of replay files on there - have a google for it.

By the way, I lap Kyalami around 1:41 +/- 1 second with the below settings on the Bimota & I don't consider myself good. I usually win the race though, even with a fall or two ...

[DazListic]

Hi m8 try some different Physics, DucFreaks should get you to the end,
not sure about blades physics, ive not tested them in a full race.

[ichibrothers]

admin said:

Hi m8 try some different Physics.

Yeah...I was using DucFreaks physics, but I was still blowing up. I went back to the standard physics though because I was getting totally blown away at Phillip Island. With max gearing ratios I was only getting up to about 168mph on the front stretch...about 190 with the standard physics?

Anyway...started a new season on the Duc using manual transmission and have qualified 3rd to this point with a sloppy 1.41:89. I know I can improve that, but like I said before, the bike feels so much more unstable in the slow corners.....

[Kamikuza]

What settings are you using? Is the front end 'twitching' in the corners?

You should be on the gas through the corner ... not necessarily accelerating but not coasting through the corner on zero throttle I've found you can go around a corner faster at less degrees of lean & more throttle than more lean & no throttle ... if you follow me.

The bike is most stable when on the brakes or on the gas too ... which is why you should be on the gas in the corners

[ichibrothers]

Settings...hmmm:

Favourite Settings
REAL
Bike settings
CPU riders

ON
Auto Rider Movement
Manual Setup
Damage
Disqualification
False starts
Manual Gearbox
Accelerator & Brake help...1 click each
Manual Tire selection
Engine Failure
Manual Setup
All on except as below...

OFF
Full crash
(would like to have it on, but drives me crazy when the rider "Walks" over to the bike, just stands there, and then picks is up...ahhh.)

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See what you are saying about throttle or brake in the corners...either one or the other, but not just coasting. Every trip into a slow speed corner is an adventure. Nail it one time and think I have found the right line, braking point etc. Next time in the kitty litter or sliding on my butt as the bike tumbles off...LOL!

I'm sure if I had a better controller I would get better results, but in the mean time the auto transmission is going pretty well. Actually, really surprised how well I'm picking it up. But, now I need to "learn" all the tracks again as I have to find the right gear for my style and each corner.

Bill

[Kamikuza]

Nah, there's nothing more exciting than blasting around a corner at 200kph and seeing a black spot in the distance resolve itself into a rider running for his bike right across the middle of your racing line

Actually, I meant your setup for the bike itself ... I find if the front is tucking under, you've got too much rake or trail & the suspension isn't balanced or stable

[ichibrothers]

kamikuza said:

Actually, I meant your setup for the bike itself ...

Ah...well, right now just the default setup with hard tires ( so I can abuse the hell out of them and still have a little something left at the end!!).

Played around with the gearing a little, but have not been into the suspension stuff yet. Bike seems to turn fairly well with medium settings. Can vary line and speed to to compensate as necessary.

Bill

[Kamikuza]

default setup

That's why it twitchy I'll start a new thread with some suspension settings I think might help, hopefully get the gurus to add too or disagree with too :laugh

[8Blade4]

if u don't set anything, expecially gears, it's normal that u often blow up the engine.

[Kamikuza]

Even with gears setup I was blowing engines which is why I turned it off ...

[8Blade4]

i never blow the engine. there must be something strange. do u blow the engine if u change gears before the red light too?

[Kamikuza]

Yup ... I often last up to like lap 23 of 25 then 'pop'